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		<title>Comment on So you thought Tor was bad enough. Check out Tor&#8217;s Hidden Web Services. by Just A Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just A Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 19:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HisInfernalMajesty - thank you for the historical information on Tor; it was interesting and enlightening. I&#039;m relatively new to Tor and hidden web services and I had not had the chance to read up on the history yet.  I&#039;m unclear on why the author of the article  believes that Tor is such a terrible technology. I understand that as an investigator it may make his job more difficult, however that goes with the territory. People have a right to privacy as well as the right to use  legal technology to maintain it, that doesn&#039;t make them guilty of criminal behavior. Excellent  analogy relating cyber criminals and Tor and real world criminals and guns . Many more criminals commit crimes  with guns that cause far greater harm to the public than there are  cyber criminals using Tor to sell illegal contraband.  Unfortunately the criminal element exists in all facets of life and will  make use  any and all tools available.  You can&#039;t fault the tool nor deprive the rest of the law abiding public of using it due to the illegal  actions of a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HisInfernalMajesty &#8211; thank you for the historical information on Tor; it was interesting and enlightening. I&#8217;m relatively new to Tor and hidden web services and I had not had the chance to read up on the history yet.  I&#8217;m unclear on why the author of the article  believes that Tor is such a terrible technology. I understand that as an investigator it may make his job more difficult, however that goes with the territory. People have a right to privacy as well as the right to use  legal technology to maintain it, that doesn&#8217;t make them guilty of criminal behavior. Excellent  analogy relating cyber criminals and Tor and real world criminals and guns . Many more criminals commit crimes  with guns that cause far greater harm to the public than there are  cyber criminals using Tor to sell illegal contraband.  Unfortunately the criminal element exists in all facets of life and will  make use  any and all tools available.  You can&#8217;t fault the tool nor deprive the rest of the law abiding public of using it due to the illegal  actions of a few.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where&#8217;s the WebCase 30-day demo? by imp source</title>
		<link>http://veresoftware.com/blog/?p=330&#038;cpage=1#comment-101003</link>
		<dc:creator>imp source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 05:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank, I thoroughly enjoyed scaning your post. I really appreciate your wonderful knowledge and the time you put into educating the rest of us.</description>
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		<title>Comment on So you thought Tor was bad enough. Check out Tor&#8217;s Hidden Web Services. by Gabriel Hilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel Hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi just thought i&#039;d comment on your entry of So you thought Tor was bad enough. Check out Tor&#8217;s Hidden Web Services.   WebCase WebLog to say a very well explained entry, its helped a lot :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi just thought i&#8217;d comment on your entry of So you thought Tor was bad enough. Check out Tor&#8217;s Hidden Web Services.   WebCase WebLog to say a very well explained entry, its helped a lot <img src='http://veresoftware.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on So you thought Tor was bad enough. Check out Tor&#8217;s Hidden Web Services. by A</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I think that this is a very informative article, as I am new to TOR, but you just basically provided an instruction manual on how to use it, complete with links. I must say that I will only be using TOR, personally, for the purpose of attempting to assist abused women &amp; girls in oppressive countries, but I am pretty blown away at a lot of the info which is available on TOR. You are right. It is, indeed, shocking and horrible, but at the same time, thanks for teaching me to use TOR better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I think that this is a very informative article, as I am new to TOR, but you just basically provided an instruction manual on how to use it, complete with links. I must say that I will only be using TOR, personally, for the purpose of attempting to assist abused women &amp; girls in oppressive countries, but I am pretty blown away at a lot of the info which is available on TOR. You are right. It is, indeed, shocking and horrible, but at the same time, thanks for teaching me to use TOR better.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Cyber-Investigator’s Introduction to IPv6 by A Cyber-Investigator’s Introduction to IPv6 &#171; Scientific Hooliganism</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Cyber-Investigator’s Introduction to IPv6 &#171; Scientific Hooliganism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 05:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on So you thought Tor was bad enough. Check out Tor&#8217;s Hidden Web Services. by HisInfernalMajesty</title>
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		<dc:creator>HisInfernalMajesty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 14:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What light are you trying to shine on this?  Your article comes off like you&#039;re attacking the premise of there being a &#039;darknet&#039;.  

Look, it&#039;s a granted that any way humans have of perverting the law, or an angle that they can take advantage of, they will.  But, there&#039;s also many benign things that TOR and the DarkNets are used for.  Legitimate things.  And I hate to break it to you, but this technology was *created by the FEDs*:

[History]
An alpha version of the software, with the onion routing network &quot;functional and deployed&quot;, was announced on 20 September 2002. Roger Dingledine, Nick Mathewson and Paul Syverson presented &quot;Tor: The Second-Generation Onion Router&quot; at the 13th USENIX Security Symposium on 13 August 2004. Though the name Tor originated as an acronym of The Onion Routing project, the current project no longer considers the name to be an acronym, and therefore does not use capital letters.

Originally sponsored by the US Naval Research Laboratory, Tor was financially supported by the Electronic Frontier Foundation from 2004 to 2005. Tor software is now developed by the Tor Project, which has been a 501(c)(3) research/education nonprofit organization based in the United States of America since December 2006 and receives a diverse base of financial support; the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the National Science Foundation are major contributors.

In March 2011 The Tor Project was awarded the Free Software Foundation&#039;s 2010 Award for Projects of Social Benefit on the following grounds: &quot;Using free software, Tor has enabled roughly 36 million people around the world to experience freedom of access and expression on the Internet while keeping them in control of their privacy and anonymity. Its network has proved pivotal in dissident movements in both Iran and more recently Egypt.&quot;
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So I&#039;ve gotta ask... with elements of our own government funding and cooperating in the development of The Onion Router (TOR), which is one of the core technologies that allows the DarkNets to exist in the first place, why would they have any interest whatsoever in stopping it, ever?  Wouldn&#039;t that defeat their first and foremost purpose of an untraceable communications channel?  So, cyber criminals use it as well... criminals also use guns, but you don&#039;t see the feds making any moves to end the production of those, do you?  

Sometime things have to be accepted.  I believe the phrase is &#039;acceptable collateral damage&#039;.